Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/04/2002 09:10 AM Senate FIN

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     CS FOR SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 28(RES)                                                                            
     Establishing the Joint Legislative Salmon Industry Task Force.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman,  sponsor, testified this resolution  was proposed                                                            
to address  the  "evolution"  in the  salmon industry,  which  would                                                            
continue for several years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  detailed that meetings  would be held  before the                                                            
2001  salmon fishing  season  begins,  and  again after  the  season                                                            
concludes.  The purpose  of the  task force,  he said,  would be  to                                                            
identify  solutions,   including   finding  methods  in   which  the                                                            
legislature  could assist  in "resolving some  of the problems  that                                                            
are in  this industry".  Just as  important, he  stressed, the  task                                                            
force would  identify efforts  that could  be undertaken within  the                                                            
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUE  ASPELUND,   Executive   Director,  Cordova   Fisherman   United                                                            
testified in Juneau in  support of the bill on behalf of the fishing                                                            
fleets in the  Copper River and Prince William Sound  represented by                                                            
the organization.  She asserted the fishing industry  is "in crisis"                                                            
and there is  a need to "comprehensively  evaluate where  we are and                                                            
how  we  can  move  forward  into  the  future."  She  emphasized  a                                                            
successful  approach to a solution  would include three components:                                                             
the issue must  be addressed on a statewide basis,  in Alaska and by                                                            
Alaskans;  fishing industry  representatives,  including  fisherman,                                                            
tenders, and processors,  must be involved in the  evaluation at the                                                            
"very basic level and throughout  the process" and; a funding method                                                            
is required  because  the industry  does not have  the resources  to                                                            
address all the impacts  to stakeholders in the state. She expressed                                                            
that commercial  fishing is the "lifeblood"  of many communities  in                                                            
coastal Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward remarked,  "Clearly, this is something that needs to be                                                            
done." However,  he questioned the limited panel membership  of nine                                                            
public members, as he identified more than nine user groups.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Aspelund responded  that  "the fishing  industry  in Alaska  is                                                            
extremely  complex" and  there are  many user  groups involved.  She                                                            
relayed discussions  on the  issue, which  determined that  the task                                                            
force is the "starting  point" to address the problems. She asserted                                                            
the public  members would  need to  "leave their  peer group  at the                                                            
door". She stated the resolution  allows "plenty of opportunity" for                                                            
discussions   involving  the   impacts  to   all  stakeholders   and                                                            
communities. Therefore,  she said, it is anticipated the nine public                                                            
members  of the task  force would  serve as  representatives  of the                                                            
balance of the  stakeholders in the area they represented  and would                                                            
be  responsible  for  consulting  and  obtaining  input  from  their                                                            
respective communities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward  clarified the task force  would be comprised  of a 13-                                                            
member panel with subcommittees operating within the group.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  affirmed  and  detailed the  intent  to  utilize                                                            
subcommittees  to take up  "specific issues  in specific areas".  He                                                            
stressed the  intent to address the  salmon industry as a  statewide                                                            
industry,  while recognizing  there  are regions  in the state  with                                                            
different problems.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Aspelund added  to her testimony that government  involvement is                                                            
required to enable  the seafood processing sector  to participate in                                                            
this effort, to  protect them from anti-trust violations.  She noted                                                            
the  inability to  gather  with this  group, because  of  anti-trust                                                            
issues,  has  hindered  earlier  efforts  at  identifying   possible                                                            
solutions for the fishing industry.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JERRY  MCCUNE, United  Fishermen of  Alaska testified  in Juneau  in                                                            
support of the proposed  task force. He stated that the organization                                                            
anticipates the  task force would "answer a lot of  the questions we                                                            
haven't been  able to answer  in the past"  due to the inability  to                                                            
gather the  harvesters, processors,  hatcheries  and the public.  He                                                            
expressed  the pink salmon  fishery is of  particular concern  given                                                            
competition with farmed fish.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATHY  HANSON,  Executive  Director,  Southeast  Alaska Fishermen's                                                             
Alliance, testified  in Juneau and  described the organization  that                                                            
represents salmon, crab,  shrimp and long-line fishermen. She stated                                                            
the  organization  supports the  proposed  task force.  She  further                                                            
described  the  anti-trust   issue  and  the  need  for   government                                                            
involvement   to  allow   meetings   between  the   harvesters   and                                                            
processors.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanson  stressed that  although salmon  is the primary  focus of                                                            
the  task  force,   other  fisheries  and  "gear  groups"   must  be                                                            
considered  as well as they could  be impacted either positively  or                                                            
negatively.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  SCHACTLER,  Commercial  salmon  fisherman,  At-Large  Member,                                                            
Board  of Directors,  United Fishermen  of Alaska,  and,  President,                                                            
United Salmon Association,  testified via teleconference from Kodiak                                                            
that  this resolution  is  "a  wonderful  piece of  leadership".  He                                                            
approved of  the public participation  on the taskforce membership,                                                             
noting it gives  latitude to appoint  the most qualified  people. He                                                            
stressed  the salmon fishery  is "tremendously  complicated"  and is                                                            
specifically designed to be such.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  commented  that  his  only  disagreement  with  the                                                            
witness'  statement is  that this  action is "timely"  as it  should                                                            
have been addressed sooner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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Senator  Ward   thanked  Senator   Austerman  for  sponsoring   this                                                            
resolution.  He referenced US Senator  Frank Murkowski's  address to                                                            
the Legislature  where  he called  for  a task force  consisting  of                                                            
federal  and state  officials.  He asked  if Senator  Austerman  had                                                            
discussed the matter with the Congressman.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  replied  he had not spoken  to Senator  Murkowski                                                            
directly  about this although  he had discussions  with Senator  Ted                                                            
Stevens on the matter.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEN STEVENS  shared he had conversations with  Dave Russell,                                                            
staff to US Senator Ted  Stevens, with regards to coordinating these                                                            
efforts.   Senator   Ben  Stevens   noted   Alaska's  congressional                                                             
delegation supports  SCR 28. He said the understanding  is that most                                                            
of the changes  must be made  at the state  level, but that  federal                                                            
resources could assist in the process.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward   pointed  out  that   federal  assistance   would  be                                                            
necessary, for instance in relation to the Canadian government.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly surmised  the task force would not be restricted from                                                            
addressing matters not specifically listed in this resolution.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  questioned  the change made  in the Senate  Resources                                                            
committee substitute  with regards  to the public membership  on the                                                            
task  force. This  change  stipulated the  public  members would  be                                                            
representatives  of the commercial salmon fishing  industry. She did                                                            
not support  the restriction to commercial  fishing representatives                                                             
when decisions  made  by this body  could impact  the sport  fishing                                                            
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  explained the change  was made to avoid  a region                                                            
sending a representative  that is not "in tune" with  the situation.                                                            
He assured  the intent  to involve  people who  want to resolve  the                                                            
issue  and for  the  process to  be "industry  driven"  rather  than                                                            
bureaucratic.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  opined the  intent  of  the task  force  is not  to                                                            
address  the  relationship  between  commercial  fishing  and  sport                                                            
fishing,  but  rather  to  identify  ways  the  commercial   fishing                                                            
industry could  adapt to a changing  world market and technologies.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman agreed,  but stressed this  discussion must  take                                                            
place as sport fishing activities do impact commercial fishing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  for assurances  that the  proposed task  force                                                            
would not adversely impact other "harvesters of the sea".                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  agreed all uses  must be considered and  stressed                                                            
the primary  intent  of the  task force  is to  consider the  issues                                                            
related to salmon.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman mentioned  the rising  mari-culture industry  and                                                            
the  impacts  it  would  have  on salmon.  He  warned  that  as  the                                                            
aquaculture  industry evolves,  "it will have  some real impacts  on                                                            
the salmon industry."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  requested Senator Austerman work with  Senator Green                                                            
and Senator Ward to address their concerns.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly ordered this bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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